Q.1)What are these MSc. Courses?
A.1)MSc. Courses are Science-based courses , similar to that offerred in other Institutions.
In BITS they are of 2 types :
1)MSc.(Hons) in P , C , M ,Eco ,Bio
2)MSc.(Tech) in Information Systems , Finance , Gen. Stu
Q.2)What is this Dual Degree Scheme?
A.2) All MSc. (Hons) (and not Tech) will get an assured BE Degree , alloted to them at the end of the 1st year , based on their CGPA for 1st year.
Q.3)Is it tough to get a good dual?
A.3) Not at all.For a CS or EEE , you need an above average CGPA , while Mech./Chem/Civil can be got at lower CGPAs too.But you will get some BE Dual assured .
Q.4)So what Degrees do I pass out with?
A.4)You get a BE and an Integrated Msc and you spend 5 years.Integ MSc. basically is BSc + MSc combined ,and it can be done by a 12th pass student.Time duration for it is 4 yrs(without a Dual).
Q.5)So , you basically waste another year?
A.5)Thats a bad way of saying it.
You get another degree from BITS , and you get 2 Practice Schools(i.e. 1 year).So basically you spend that extra year working.This is imp for PS2 Placements(Check my Practice School Post)
And that MSc. does help when applying abroad.
Q.6)Then why are the cutoffs low?
A.6)Because most people are uninformed and don’t have a clue about the Dual Degree Scheme.But then again , no other insti in India offers this , so such flexibilities are rare in India.
I think aspirants and their advisors(parents , friends etc.) are to be blamed for this.THERE IS NO “SHAME” INVOLVED IN TAKING AN MSc. AND A B.E. DUAL .THOSE WHO THINK THIS WAY ARE FOOLS.
Q.7)Do you get separate Degrees?
A.7)Yes , they are absolutely separate.
Q.8)What other such schemes are there at BITS?
A.8)Based on your 1st Year CGPA ,
1)Vertical Transfers:If you are in the Top 30 students in any of the Campuses , you can leave your old course(MSc. or BE) and take a new course(MSc. or BE).Time taken = 4 years
2)BE + BE: Offerred to only Top 10 students in each campus.Pref choices incl. Mech + EnI , CS + EEE.Time = 5yrs , 2PS2s
3)MSc. + MSc.:Offerred at lower CGPAs.Very rare.Preferred incl. MSc.Phy + MSc.Maths(5yrs)
4)MSc.(Tech) + BE Dual :rare , offerred to only very high CGPA people.(5yrs)
Based on BITSAT Marks and vacancies
1)Campus Transfers:Very rare , not advisable to join a campus thinking you can get out later.Basically it happens at the end of 1st sem.Your BITSAT marks only matter. Along with 2nd sem admission ppl , all BITSAT Marks are arranged in descending order and seats(based on vacancies , usually in Chemical and Bio Sci , Pharma) are alloted.
Q.9)Isn’t this tough?
A.9) NOT AT ALL.
Remember that for 1st year ALL students in BITS do exactly the same courses , so getting a Dual through MSc. Chem is same as for MSc. Phy .
2nd year , most courses are the same .
3rd year , BE students will do their Core Courses for their BE Degree.MSc ppl will do for their MSc.
4th yr , BE Students will go for PS2(1 sem) and will do a few extra courses in the other sem(Very light sem).MSc. ppl will do their Dual Degree Core Courses.
5th yr BE students will have passed out.MSc. students will now go for PS2 for 2 sems.
Q.10)Which MSc + BE Combos are the best?(Like MSc. Phy + EEE , MSc Chem + Chemical … )
A.10) NONE OF THEM!
Choose your MSc. depending on the subject you like the most and/or you are good at.In my Myths abt Engg post I have discussed why.
And there is a trend for ppl to choose MSc. Phy much above Msc. Bio Sci.Frankly this is silly.MSc. Bio Sci is basically Bio Engg and is quite interesting.Many students from other MScs tried for an MSc Bio(at the end of their 1st yr) , out of which very few were given.So , don’t fall into the trap of choosing Phy because it sounds glamourous. In reality it is very tough and only those genuinely excellent at it will enjoy it.
And don’t bother about Placements.Your BE degree will ensure this.Choose your MSc. out of ineterest.MSc. will help you greatly in applying abroad(assuming you have actually done something worthwhile in your MSc. field).
Q.11)How is MSc. at BITS differrent from that in the IITs?
-No Dual Degree is given in the IITs
-In IITs it is for 5 years
Dual degrees- BITS Pilani vs IIT’s etc
People are often confused that duals in Bits Pilani are same as duals in other engineering colleges. There is hell amount of difference.
To start of the duals degrees are mostly M.Sc(Hons) degrees…i.e. they are science degrees and are not engineering dual degrees like M.Tech.
Secondly , after the completion of your first year you will be given a dual degree in an engineering stream depending on your performance.For example if a guy joins in M.Sc.(Hons) Mathematics and after first year he cant get any dual in a engineering stream like EEE,EIE,CSE i mean any branch..
The whole point is a Science degree with an Engineering degree….The thing being the Science and engineering degrees are themselef recognised and the dual engineering degree is in no way different from the normal engineering degree.
Thirdly u dont waste an extra year(5 year)…You actually work in a company,doing ur internships with a stipend.
Apart from that you can do an engineering dual i.e. one engineering dual with another.There are people in the campus who are doing Computer science with EEE dual and they pass out in 5 years…opens up many gates for higher studies
Dual Degree more info
Is dual worth the shot???
Ya according to me it is..letz check out some advantage we have
1) You get 2 degrees in 5 years
2) The M.Sc degree course are in no way related to the B.E. courses(except for few common coourses) . so you get 2 degrees at end of 5 years..so you can potray urself as a Masters in Science or and engineer or even both
3)As you have two degrees it gives lots of options for higher studies…consider Bio with Mech dual…see how many reasearch option one has..and it is very easy to get admissions in top colleges
4)Dualites most of the time get better pay then normal engineering students.
5)Your one year internships is counted as experience by most of the companies…so if you work there and get placed there you will start of with a great pay package
6)And finally you dont have to waste that final year in college…you can work in a company doin your PS-2(something like internship) and earn stipends
1)Most of the times the sciences degree do not help in your engineering…So itz upto you to explore those fields
2)Some companies do not allow dualites for placements(only few)
3) You have to complete 2 degrees in 5 years so itz sometimes hectic
4)You have a placement option of only one week(coz you will be doing your intern) while engineering group people stay on the campus complete sem for their placements…many dualites do a thesis on campus rather than intern so that they can stay for placements the whole sem..also many dualites get their jobs during their internship(PS-2)
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